Tuesday, 3 March 2009

Son of Man Arrived Responses



"Son of Man in hebrew "ben adam" means "human being" it is the word used all the time when talking about people, humans'

Our response.

Christians believe that the Son of Man is Jesus coming and it isn’t Jesus it is the Paraclete that he promised to send from the Father. During the second mission to Israel in 2007 Abba spoke to Eliakim in Hebrew affectionately, he said “Ben Ami I phoned a friend to get it translated and she said it meant “Son of my People."

A few days later Abba called out to Eliakim again and he said Reuban and it means 'Behold a Son’. In 2008 God said “Son of Man means Son of My People" in other words it is a term that he used for his prophets in the same way as he called Prophet Ezekiel Son of Man and Jesus referred to himself as a Son of Man. So in effect Jesus was saying he was the brother of the people, the Brotherhood of Man. He came to help the people and not those that wished to harm them.

In the end times prophecies Daniel also mentions one like the Son of Man. "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. "Daniel 7:13

Eliakim was led into the presence of the Ancient of Days a few years ago.

Jesus said "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."Mark 8:38-9:1

When Eliakim returned from a three week mission to Israel in 2006 and the Lebanon -v- Israeli war broke out. Eliakim felt deeply ashamed to be a human being. Not only about the war and destruction, but also due to the way that people were tearing each other apart on internet forums. The lack of compassion for the Israeli's living in a war torn country was immense, there appeared to be little willingness to appreciate that Hezbollah had started the war and that they should be held responsible for the mayhem. Jesus predicted that the Son of Man would feel ashamed of the people and this is another prophecy fulfilled.

Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers. Hebrews 2:10-12


Abd-ru-shin author of "In the Light of Truth - The Grail Message" also claims that the Son of Man is the Spirit of Truth that Jesus promised to send in the end times to continue Christ's mission. They are the Paraclete. [1]

The Jesus Seminar
According to the biblical scholars at the Jesus Seminar, the phrase "son of man" (or "son of Adam") sometimes refers to a heavenly figure that is to come, but when Jesus uses this phrase he is not referring to himself.[2]


The prophecy is mentioned in the video of the Son of Man.

And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Matthew 24:30-32

At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[d]is near, right at the door. I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. Matthew 24

1. http://www.grailforum.com/themessage/about.html
2 Funk, Robert W., Roy W. Hoover, and the Jesus Seminar. The Five Gospels. HarperSanFrancisco: 1993. p. 76-77.

This posted at 225 = Worthy Gift.

2nd post in March, 2 = Bet = Beit: God's Dwelling Place Below. "The Midrash states that the Divine motivation for creation was that the Holy One, Blessed Be He, desired a dwelling place in lower reality. The fulfillment of this desire begins with the creation of man, a Divine soul enclothed in a physical body, and proceeds with the multiplication of man, to "conquer" the whole world and make it the kingdom of God."

The Book of Revelation speaks of the one that overcomes and one of the translations of the original word was to conquer. To overcome different realities positively is mighty indeed. Without overcoming every test, trial and tribulation with flying colours one does not enter the Kingdom of God.

Post 91 = Tree

Abba is Shaking his Tree

Truth is like wormwood to those that cannot accept it and ambrosia to those that can.

1 comment:

Eliakim said...

The debate on whether Jesus Christ is God

Numbers 23:19

The original translation in the Torah the words are different.

God is not man to be capricious, or mortal to change his mind. Would he speak and not act, Promise and not fulfill.

In other words God doesn't act like man that thinks he is mortal.

In the Aramaic text it as follows.

God is not a man that he should lie: nor the Son of Man that he should be given counsel; he speaks and he shall do it, and his word abides forever.

The above does clarify the position and it is clear in the above passage that the Son of Man is not God because the Son of Man receives counsel from God. The title Son of Man is also a title given to the prophets. As we know Prophet Ezekiel was also called Son of Man and in the Aramaic text Daniel is called Son of Man as well.